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Jung-féle személyiségteszt

2011. 06. 16.

Lobster pályamódosításon töri a páncélozott kis fejét. Mivel bármilyen hasonló mozgás magával vonja a kétbites HR-esekkel való elkerülhetetlen és lealacsonyító találkozást, Lobster elővette minden HR-es bibliáját, a Jung - Myers-Briggs személyiségtesztet.

Igen, Jung. Az a Jung. Ő ihlette, nem ő csinálta. (Bár bevallom, igazán visszatérhetne tesztelni a tesztet, mert pár kérdés már kicsit avíttas. Ott van pl. hogy sztem a tudományos módszer helytálló-e. namost ez az ő lelkészkicsifia-aki-mindehol-vallásokat-és-isteneket-lát szájából a Nagy Mennyei Apuci vs. tudományos módszer dilemmát jelentette, de a kvantumfizikai valószínűtlenségek korában, ahol a tudományos módszer szinte már önmegsemmisítő glóriát kapott a feje köré – kicsit másképp hangzik. De Lobster igyekezett az eredeti kérdésre válaszolni, különben kidobta volna a teszt, hogy vallásos tradicionalista vagyok, aki szerint az istenivel való személyes (hallucináción alapuló) kontaktus adja életünk kicsi értelmét és a meghunyászkodás, meg a gondolkodás teljes felfüggesztése egyet jelent az erénnyel.)

 

Lobster egyszer már átverte nevezett tesztet. Egy diákmelóhoz tölttették ki vele az amerikaiak és akikről megfelelő dolgot dobott a gép, azokat előléptették. Lobster számára akkor semmi nem volt fontosabb, minthogy ne kelljen hordani az egyenruhát és persze a 30%-kal magasabb órabér is csábított. Lobster akkor egyenesen beleírta magát a ’Supervisor’ nevű, nem túl okos, de szabálykövető kategóriába, ami (surprise) elég volt ahhoz, hogy kinevezzék supervisorrá.


Na, most kíváncsi lettem, mit dobna igazándiból.

Itt a teszt, töltsétek ki bátran ti is.


Az eredmények alapján egy négybetűs kód jön ki, amiben minden betű mellé jár egy erősségi arány is. Az arányszám 1-100%-ig megy. Ha nagyon szélsőségesen beleesel mondjuk az introvertáltba, akkor 100 van mellérendelve, ha csak alig vagy introvertáltabb, mint extrovertált, akkor 1. Ha inkább extrovertált, akkor E az első betűd és minél nagyobb a szám, annál inkább az.  

Extroverted

Sensing

Feeling

Percieving

Introverted

Intuitive

Thinking

Judging

 

Figyelem! A szavaknak nem az elsődleges, kicsi eszünkbe ötlő eredményéből indulunk ki. Csak szólok. Itt van pl, hogy Jung kábé min agyalt, mikor a kategóriákat kialakította. (Forrás: Jung Dictionary of Definitions)


Sensation. The psychological function that perceives immediate reality through the physical senses. (Compare intuition.)

 An attitude that seeks to do justice to the unconscious as well as to one's fellow human beings cannot possibly rest on knowledge alone, in so far as this consists merely of thinking and intuition. It would lack the function that perceives values, i.e., feeling, as well as the fonction du réel, i.e., sensation, the sensible perception of reality. ["the Psychology of the Transference," CW 16, par.486.]In Jung's model of typology, sensation, like intuition, is an irrational function. It perceives concrete facts, with no judgment of what they mean or what they are worth.Sensation must be strictly differentiated from feeling, since the latter is an entirely different process, although it may associate itself with sensation as "feeling-tone." Sensation is related not only to external stimuli but to inner ones, i.e., to changes in the internal organic processes.[Definitions," CW 6, par. 792.]Jung also distinguished between sensuous or concrete sensation and abstract sensation.Concrete sensation never appears in "pure" form, but is always mix-ed up with ideas, feelings, thoughts. . . . The concrete sensation of a flower . . . conveys a perception not only of the flower as such, but also of the stem, leaves, habitat, and so on. It is also instantly mingled with feeling of pleasure or dislike which the sight of the flower evokes, or with simultaneous olfactory perceptions, or with thoughts about its botanical classification, etc. But abstract sensation immediately picks out the most salient sensuous attribute of the flower, its brilliant redness, for instance, and makes this the sole or at least the principle content of consciousness, entirely detached from all other admixtures. Abstract sensation is found chiefly among artists. Like every abstraction, it is a product of functional differentiation.[Ibid., par. 794.]


Intuition. The psychic function that perceives possibilities inherent in the present. (Compare sensation.)


Intuition gives outlook and insight; it revels in the garden of magical possibilities as if they were real.[The Psychology of the Transference," CW 16, par. 492.]In Jung's model of typology, intuition, like sensation, is an irrational function because its apprehension of the world is based on the perception of given facts. Unlike sensation, however, it perceives via the unconscious and is not dependent on concrete reality.In intuition a content presents itself whole and complete, without our being able to explain or discover how this content came into existence. Intuition is a kind of instinctive apprehension, no matter of what contents. . . . Intuitive knowledge possesses an intrinsic certainty and conviction.[Definitions," CW 6, par. 770.]Intuition may receive information from within (for instance, as a flash of insight of unknown origin), or be stimulated by what is going on in someone else.The first is a perception of unconscious psychic data originating in the subject, the second is a perception of data dependent on subliminal perceptions of the object and on the feelings and thoughts they evoke.[Ibid., par. 771.]

 

Feeling. The psychological function that evaluates or judges what something or someone is worth. (Compare thinking.)

 A feeling is as indisputable a reality as the existence of an idea. [The Psychology of the Transference," CW 16, par. 531.]The feeling function is the basis for "fight or flight" decisions. As a subjective process, it may be quite independent of external stimuli. In Jung's view it is a rational function, like thinking, in that it is decisively influenced not by perception (as are the functions of sensation and intuition) but by reflection. A person whose overall attitude is oriented by the feeling function is called a feeling type.

 In everyday usage, feeling is often confused with emotion. The latter, more appropriately called affect, is the result of an activated complex. Feeling not contaminated by affect can be quite cold.Feeling is distinguished from affect by the fact that it produces no perceptible physical innervations, i.e., neither more nor less than an ordinary thinking process. [Definitions," CW 6, par. 725.]

 

 Thinking. The mental process of interpreting what is perceived. (Compare feeling.)

 In Jung's model of typology, thinking is one of the four functions used for psychological orientation. Along with feeling, it is a rational function. If thinking is the primary function, then feeling is automatically the inferior function.Thinking, if it is to be real thinking and true to its own principle, must rigorously exclude feeling. This, of course, does not do away with the the fact that there are individuals whose thinking and feeling are on the same level, both being of equal motive power for consciousness. But in these cases there is also no question of a differentiated type, but merely of relatively undeveloped thinking and feeling.["General Description of the Types," CW 6, par. 667.]As a process of apperception, thinking may be active or passive.Active thinking is an act of the will, passive thinking is a mere occurrence. In the former case, I submit the contents of ideation to a voluntary act of judgment; in the latter, conceptual connections establish themselves of their own accord, and judgments are formed that may even contradict my intention. . . . Active thinking, accordingly, would correspond to my concept of directed thinking. Passive thinking . . . I would call . . . intuitive thinking.["Definitions," ibid., par. 830.]The capacity for directed thinking I call intellect; the capacity for passive or undirected thinking I call intellectual intuition.[Ibid., par. 832.]

 Active imagination. A method of assimilating unconscious contents (dreams, fantasies, etc.) through some form of self-expression. (See also transcendent function.)

 The object of active imagination is to give a voice to sides of the personality (particularly the anima/animus and the shadow) that are normally not heard, thereby establishing a line of communication between consciousness and the unconscious. Even when the end products-drawing, painting, writing, sculpture, dance, music, etc.-are not interpreted, something goes on between creator and creation that contributes to a transformation of consciousness.

 The first stage of active imagination is like dreaming with open eyes. It can take place spontaneously or be artificially induced.In the latter case you choose a dream, or some other fantasy-image, and concentrate on it by simply catching hold of it and looking at it. You can also use a bad mood as a starting-point, and then try to find out what sort of fantasyimage it will produce, or what image expresses this mood. You then fix this image in the mind by concentrating your attention. Usually it will alter, as the mere fact of contemplating it animates it. The alterations must be carefully noted down all the time, for they reflect the psychic processes in the unconscious background, which appear in the form of images consisting of conscious memory material. In this way conscious and unconscious are united, just as a waterfall connects above and below.[The Conjunction," CW 14, par. 706.] The second stage, beyond simply observing the images, involves a conscious participation in them, the honest evaluation of what they mean about oneself, and a morally and intellectually binding commitment to act on the insights. This is a transition from a merely perceptive or aesthetic attitude to one of judgment.Although, to a certain extent, he looks on from outside, impartially, he is also an acting and suffering figure in the drama of the psyche. This recognition is absolutely necessary and marks an important advance. So long as he simply looks at the pictures he is like the foolish Parsifal, who forgot to ask the vital question because he was not aware of his own participation in the action.[An allusion to the medieval Grail legend. The question Parsifal failed to ask was, "Whom does the Grail serve?" ]. . . But if you recognize your own involvement you yourself must enter into the process with your personal reactions, just as if you were one of the fantasy figures, or rather, as if the drama being enacted before your eyes were real.["The Conjunction," CW 14, par. 753.]The judging attitude implies a voluntary involvement in those fantasy-processes which compensate the individual and-in particular-the collective situation of consciousness. The avowed purpose of this involvement is to integrate the statements of the unconscious, to assimilate their compensatory content, and thereby produce a whole meaning which alone makes life worth living and, for not a few people, possible at all. [ Ibid., par. 756.]

 Az eredmények alapján 4x4, azaz 16 kategóriába sorol egy másik, erre épülő rendszer, a Keirsey-temperamentum skála.

Négy alapkategória (Guardian, Artisan, Idealist and Rational) van a két középső betű alapján, azokon belül további 4 alkategória, az introvertált-extrovertált illetve az judging-perceiving tengelyen betöltött pozícióid szerint.  

Az első fő kategória a Guardian

 Guardians® (SJs) are the cornerstone of society, for they are the temperament given to serving and preserving our most important social institutions. Guardians have natural talent in managing goods and services--from supervision to maintenance and supply -- and they use all their skills to keep things running smoothly in their families, communities, schools, churches, hospitals, and businesses.

All Guardians share the following core characteristics:

·           Guardians pride themselves on being dependable, helpful, and hard-working.

·           Guardians make loyal mates, responsible parents, and stabilizing leaders.

·           Guardians tend to be dutiful, cautious, humble, and focused on credentials and traditions.

·           Guardians are concerned citizens who trust authority, join groups, seek security, prize gratitude, and dream of meting out justice.

Guardians can have a lot of fun with their friends, but they are quite serious about their duties and responsibilities. Guardians take pride in being dependable and trustworthy; if there's a job to be done, they can be counted on to put their shoulder to the wheel. Guardians also believe in law and order, and sometimes worry that respect for authority, even a fundamental sense of right and wrong, is being lost. Perhaps this is why Guardians honor customs and traditions so strongly -- they are familiar patterns that help bring stability to our modern, fast-paced world.

Practical and down-to-earth, Guardians believe in following the rules and cooperating with others. They are not very comfortable winging it or blazing new trails; working steadily within the system is the Guardian way, for in the long run loyalty, discipline, and teamwork get the job done right. Guardians are meticulous about schedules and have a sharp eye for proper procedures. They are cautious about change, even though they know that change can be healthy for an institution. Better to go slowly, they say, and look before you leap.

Guardians make up as much as 40 to 45 percent of the population, and a good thing, because they usually end up doing all the indispensable but thankless jobs the rest of the population takes for granted.

 Ez a kategória az, amit Lobster minden erejével püföl és teljes tűzerővel próbál kizökkenteni az intellektuális poshadásból és meggyőzni arról, hogy a létezés és az élet között minőségi különbség van és hogy az élet egyenlő a változással. Szerintük:

-         Minden jó, ami régi (lásd hagyomány-buzik, múltba révedők, oda nagyságot vizionálók)

-         Minden jó, ami status quo – lásd Freud halálösztönét (Nem, nem meghalni akar, mert attól fél, hanem visszamenni oda, amikor még nem terhelte az élet.)

-         Az ösztönös vagy maga az élet vagy elkerülhetetlen, mint egy természeti csapás és nagy sóhajjal tudomásul kell venni.

 Ez a csoport adja ki a lakosság 40-45%-át.

 Nem nehéz kiszámolni, hogy ha 16 kategória van és nevezett 4 altípus magában kiadja majdnem a felét, akkor nem lehet mind ily népes.

 A második kategória. Artisan

 Artisans are the temperament with a natural ability to excel in any of the arts, not only the fine arts such as painting and sculpting, or the performing arts such as music, theater, and dance, but also the athletic, military, political, mechanical, and industrial arts, as well as the "art of the deal" in business.

All Artisans share the following core characteristics:

·           Artisans tend to be fun-loving, optimistic, realistic, and focused on the here and now.

·           Artisans pride themselves on being unconventional, bold, and spontaneous.

·           Artisans make playful mates, creative parents, and troubleshooting leaders.

·           Artisans are excitable, trust their impulses, want to make a splash, seek stimulation, prize freedom, and dream of mastering action skills.

Artisans are most at home in the real world of solid objects that can be made and manipulated, and of real-life events that can be experienced in the here and now. Artisans have exceptionally keen senses, and love working with their hands. They seem right at home with tools, instruments, and vehicles of all kinds, and their actions are usually aimed at getting them where they want to go, and as quickly as possible. Thus Artisans will strike off boldly down roads that others might consider risky or impossible, doing whatever it takes, rules or no rules, to accomplish their goals. This devil-may-care attitude also gives the Artisans a winning way with people, and they are often irresistibly charming with family, friends, and co-workers.

Artisans want to be where the action is; they seek out adventure and show a constant hunger for pleasure and stimulation. They believe that variety is the spice of life, and that doing things that aren't fun or exciting is a waste of time. Artisans are impulsive, adaptable, competitive, and believe the next throw of the dice will be the lucky one. They can also be generous to a fault, always ready to share with their friends from the bounty of life. Above all, Artisans need to be free to do what they wish, when they wish. They resist being tied or bound or confined or obligated; they would rather not wait, or save, or store, or live for tomorrow. In the Artisan view, today must be enjoyed, for tomorrow never comes.

There are many Artisans, perhaps 30 to 35 percent of the population, which is good, because they create much of the beauty, grace, fun, and excitement the rest of us enjoy in life.

 Szóval jelenben él, élvezi az életet és kreatív. A lakosság 30-35%-a.

 Lobster végigkúszott hát a különböző típusokon és eleinte boldogan fente az ollóját valami jó kis lebuktatásra, mert az első 8 kategória (Guardian+Artisan) kiadott mindjárt 80%-ot. Akkor jött a fordulat. Az Idealista és a Racionális sarok, vagyis a második 8 kategória valóban nem volt olyan népes, felfelé haladva valóban ritkult a levegő. A Racionális kategóriába a lakosságnak kevesebb mint 5-10%-át sorolják.

 Igazából nem értem, miért lepődtem meg.

 Idealista

 Idealists (NFs), as a temperament, are passionately concerned with personal growth and development. Idealists strive to discover who they are and how they can become their best possible self -- always this quest for self-knowledge and self-improvement drives their imagination. And they want to help others make the journey. Idealists are naturally drawn to working with people, and whether in education or counseling, in social services or personnel work, in journalism or the ministry, they are gifted at helping others find their way in life, often inspiring them to grow as individuals and to fulfill their potentials.

All Idealists share the following core characteristics:

·           Idealists are enthusiastic, they trust their intuition, yearn for romance, seek their true self, prize meaningful relationships, and dream of attaining wisdom.

·           Idealists pride themselves on being loving, kindhearted, and authentic.

·           Idealists tend to be giving, trusting, spiritual, and they are focused on personal journeys and human potentials.

·           Idealists make intense mates, nurturing parents, and inspirational leaders.

Idealists are sure that friendly cooperation is the best way for people to achieve their goals. Conflict and confrontation upset them because they seem to put up angry barriers between people. Idealists dream of creating harmonious, even caring personal relations, and they have a unique talent for helping people get along with each other and work together for the good of all. Such interpersonal harmony might be a romantic ideal, but then Idealists are incurable romantics who prefer to focus on what might be, rather than what is. The real, practical world is only a starting place for Idealists; they believe that life is filled with possibilities waiting to be realized, rich with meanings calling out to be understood. This idea of a mystical or spiritual dimension to life, the "not visible" or the "not yet" that can only be known through intuition or by a leap of faith, is far more important to Idealists than the world of material things.

Highly ethical in their actions, Idealists hold themselves to a strict standard of personal integrity. They must be true to themselves and to others, and they can be quite hard on themselves when they are dishonest, or when they are false or insincere. More often, however, Idealists are the very soul of kindness. Particularly in their personal relationships, Idealists are without question filled with love and good will. They believe in giving of themselves to help others; they cherish a few warm, sensitive friendships; they strive for a special rapport with their children; and in marriage they wish to find a "soulmate," someone with whom they can bond emotionally and spiritually, sharing their deepest feelings and their complex inner worlds.

Idealists are relatively rare, making up no more than 15 to 20 percent of the population. But their ability to inspire people with their enthusiasm and their idealism has given them influence far beyond their numbers.

 Rationals

 Rationals (NTs) are the problem solving temperament, particularly if the problem has to do with the many complex systems that make up the world around us. Rationals might tackle problems in organic systems such as plants and animals, or in mechanical systems such as railroads and computers, or in social systems such as families and companies and governments. But whatever systems fire their curiosity, Rationals will analyze them to understand how they work, so they can figure out how to make them work better.

All Rationals share the following core characteristics:

  • Rationals tend to be pragmatic, skeptical, self-contained, and focused on problem-solving and systems analysis.
  • Rationals pride themselves on being ingenious, independent, and strong willed.
  • Rationals make reasonable mates, individualizing parents, and strategic leaders.
  • Rationals are even-tempered, they trust logic, yearn for achievement, seek knowledge, prize technology, and dream of understanding how the world works.

In working with problems, Rationals try to find solutions that have application in the real world, but they are even more interested in the abstract concepts involved, the fundamental principles or natural laws that underlie the particular case. And they are completely pragmatic about their ways and means of achieving their ends. Rationals don't care about being politically correct. They are interested in the most efficient solutions possible, and will listen to anyone who has something useful to teach them, while disregarding any authority or customary procedure that wastes time and resources.

Rationals have an insatiable hunger to accomplish their goals and will work tirelessly on any project they have set their mind to. They are rigorously logical and fiercely independent in their thinking -- are indeed skeptical of all ideas, even their own -- and they believe they can overcome any obstacle with their will power. Often they are seen as cold and distant, but this is really the absorbed concentration they give to whatever problem they're working on. Whether designing a skyscraper or an experiment, developing a theory or a prototype technology, building an aircraft, a corporation, or a strategic alliance, Rationals value intelligence, in themselves and others, and they pride themselves on the ingenuity they bring to their problem solving.

Rationals are very scarce, comprising as little as 5 to 10 percent of the population. But because of their drive to unlock the secrets of nature, and to develop new technologies, they have done much to shape our world.

Guardian (40-45%)

Supervisor (ESTJ)

10+

Inspector (ISTJ)

10

Provider (ESFJ)

10+

Protector (ISFJ)

10

Artisan (30-35%)

Promoter (ESTP)

10

Crafter (ISTP)

10

Performer (ESFP)

10

Composer (ISFP)

9-10

Idealist (15-20%)

Teacher (ENFJ)

2

Counselor (INFJ)

3+

Champion (ENFP)

3-4

Healer (INFP)

 

Rational (5-10%)

Fieldmarshal (ENTJ)

2-

Mastermind (INTJ)

1-2

Inventor (ENTP)

2

Architect (INTP)

1

 

 Disclaimer

  Ezek a gondolkodási mintázatok legalább annyira leképezik azt, hogy mire vagyok ráállva, mint azt hogy milyen vagyok. Idővel akár változhatnak is.

-         Egészen nyilvánvaló, hogy a nevezett híres emberekkel nem töltettek ki teszteket, így sokukról csak becsllés lehet.

-         Hasonlóképp a lakosságban való általános arányokat is csak becsülték (bár gondot fordítottak rá, hogy Lobster-féle szőrszálhasogató idióták kedvéért a számok 100% körüli eredményt adjanak ki.

-         Azért a Racionális csoport aránya meglepett még így is.

 Kérdéseim – amikre nincs válasz

-         Országonként, kultúrkörönként vajon más arányok vannak-e? (Tudom, ilyen kutatást valszeg senki nem csinált)

-         Vajon időben változik-e ezeknek a típusoknak a lakosságon belüli aránya és ha igen, milyen irányban?

-         Van-e ennek az arányszámnak köze a felvilágosodáshoz?

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